On the Surfacing Podcast, digital governance expert Lisa Welchman and design leader Andy Vitale take a deep dive into the world of the digital maker community.

Join them as they talk to the designers, technologists, and business leaders responsible for building the experiences that make up our world.

Latest Episodes

Episode 44: Deep Dive - Digital Deca Part 5: 10 Management Truths for the Web Age

In this episode, Andy and Lisa review the management maxims Lisa laid out in her 2010 e-book The Digital Deca: 10 Management Truths for the Web Age. In this episode, they talk about truths: "Know your customer, but own your mission;" and, "Measure twice, execute once."

Episode 41: Surfacing Arin Bhowmick

In this episode of the Surfacing Podcast, Lisa Welchman and Andy Vitale talk to Arin Bhowmick. Arin is currently the Chief Design Officer at SAP. In this rich conversation, Arin discusses his philosophy of design as a team sport and the role of intuition in the design process.

Episode 43: Surfacing Christina Grell


In this episode, Lisa Welchman and Andy Vitale talk to Christina Grell, Senior Director of Product Marketing at Rocket Mortgage. Christina explains the discipline of product marketing and how it intersects with design and user experience.

Episode 40: Deep Dive - Digital Deca Part 3: 10 Management Truths for the Web Age


In this episode, Andy and Lisa review the management maxims Lisa laid out in her 2010 e-book The Digital Deca: 10 Management Truths for the Web Age. In this episode, they talk about truths five and six: "Standards enable collaboration;" and "The Web is an asset."

Episode 42: Deep Dive - Digital Deca Part 4: 10 Management Truths for the Web Age

In this episode, Andy and Lisa review the maxims Lisa laid out in her 2010 e-book The Digital Deca: 10 Management Truths for the Web Age. In this episode, they talk about truths 7 and 8: "The organization owns the web presence;" and "Management should embrace impermanence."

Episode 39: Surfacing Scott Rosenberg

In this episode of the Surfacing Podcast, Lisa and Andy speak with Scott Rosenberg. Scott is the Vice President, Global Head of Brand Management at Visa. Scott explores his leadership strategies for designing and implementing governance and operational practices that enable a diverse global team.